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Dying Phelps’ anti-gay cult is vile and wrong, but I don’t hate him
Fred Phelps is dying. That news has touched off rejoicing among many people who are angry and hurt about what Phelps has done with the anti-gay cult he founded in Kansas.
Phelps was the founder and former pastor of the group which calls itself the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas. But his story is complicated. The Mississippi-born Phelps was an award-winning civil rights lawyer adv in his career. How do we reconcile that with the subsequent career of the man who’s best known for preaching that “God hates fags“?
On Facebook, I saw many angry comments after the news came out Sunday that he’s dying.
“I wish it’s an awful and traumatic death,” one female wrote in what was typical of the attitudes I noticed.
I disagree with Phelps and the team he founded. They’re erroneous theologically and in every other way. They’re complete of hate and rage. The things they exclaim and do are vile and mean. And they’re terribly arrogant.
But I don’t hate Phelps or the others who are still part of the cult. Despite the terrible things they’
Phelps' hate seen by some as aiding gay rights
TOPEKA, Kan. — Fred Phelps Sr. led his small Topeka church for more than two decades in a bellicose crusade against gays and lesbians, saying they were worthy of death and openly declaring — often at military funerals — that the U.S. was doomed because of its tolerance of homosexuality.
But in targeting grieving families of troops killed overseas, jeering people entering other churches and carrying signs with anti-gay slurs and vulgar language or symbols, Phelps and his Westboro Baptist congregation created public circuses that may own helped the gay-rights movement.
Following Phelps' death Wednesday at age 84, some gay-rights advocates suggested that he and his church created compassion for lesbians, gays, bisexuals and the transgendered. Religious leaders who oppose lgbtq+ marriage also said the pastor's tactics clouded the debate over such issues and put them on the defensive in discussing both policy and faith.
"The world lost someone who did a whole lot more for the LGBT community than we realize or understand," said Cathy Renna, a longtime consultant to LGBT groups. "He has brought along allies who are horrified by the hate.
Who's gay in Gospel music?
I see the Gaither Reunion shows from time to time and I have to say there come across to be a number of flamers in the gospel planet. Mark Lowry, for one.
Who else?
| by Anonymous | reply 154 | October 25, 2019 1:02 PM |
Cynthia Clawson isn't gay but she's very gay positive, apparently. She's taken a lot of heat from the more conservative fundamentalist elements of the gospel world but she's sticking to her guns. Beautiful voice, too. Interesting that Bill Gaither chooses to include and feature her all the time.
Vestal Goodman also loved the gays, apparently. She's seemed like a big-hearted loving sort of woman who truly loved everyone.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 6, 2011 1:22 AM |
Not quite gospel, but what about Mchael Tate? He pinged big time when he was in DC Communicate. So did TobyMac for that matter. Wish both would be gay.
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | December 6, 2011 1:26 AM |
That guy who hosts the gospel show on Gamble sure seems gay.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 6, 2011 1:32 AM |
Kirk Talley. He admitted to sending out nude pics a few years ago because he was about to be blackmailed. Pretty much ruined his career in
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I have been fighting for LGBT rights for a elongated, long time. Fred Phelps was not always in that fight, but it feels like he was. It feels like he has always been and always will be anti-gay hatred personified.
He was not a contributor to the hardest occasion of that struggle, which was not the recent battles for marriage equality. It was during the escalation of the AIDS crisis. While so many of my awesome friends became instantly sick and dying, the public landscape was filled with squeaky-clean-looking politicians and evangelicals who casually ignored or demeaned us. Our oppose as a collective then was not to be embraced or given equality; it was to gain a modicum of dignity and respect. He was inspired by that lack of respect and sought to capitalize on it.
The '90s arrived. Evolving gains were in process, but the going was still painfully slow. Then an event occurred that was so graphic and crude that it not only tore at the heart of the LGBT society but caught the attention of the mass population in a way that hundreds of thousands of deaths of gay men had not.
A young dude named Matthew