Was oda nobunaga gay
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The cultural differences between Japan and, say, North America are legion. It saves time to enumerate the similarities and just assume that everything else is different. Yet humans are such stupid things that we cannot support thinking that we are taking the same things for granted. Some of the most frustrating things about talking to Americans is that they suppose everything they know employ in Japan and disallow to acknowledge that their beliefs are merely prejudices based on experiences unusual to people who own spent their lifetimes in the American culture.
The most obvious of this example is the American attitudes about sex. Why act American women keep insisting to me that MY girlfriends are faking their orgasms? Firstly, it should not concern them if they are, and secondly, faking orgasms is an American thing. Japanese women phoney not having them, not the other way around.
And then there is the “You men don’t understand” tripe. “We women obtain unwanted attention from men when we go out. You men don’t understand.” Maybe in America. When will American women ever understand that Japanese men experience the same thing?
Japan is one of th
Was Nobunaga Oda gay? This scene in the first episode when he first meet Yasuke, he was buying clothes but before picking what he liked, he needed to know Ranmaru's notion. Only after he said that the clothes was attractive Nobunaga bought it 🤣
Was Ranmaru his lover? I desire to know.
The implications were there but they didn't explicitly said it. The way Nobunaga looked toward Ranmaru direction when he said "free to do what ever you want with whomever you want" and then the contempt from his right hand human when he saw the way they look at each other.
then ...the way he pulled Ranmaru away holding his hand so they could celebrate Yasuke's victory just the two of them 😬👀
I know that they were together.
I just need someone who have watched the series to tell me that I didn't watch things...Did they just make Nobunaga homosexual or was he also historically gay?🤔🤔
Tokis86 said:
This.
It wasn't even necessarily considered homosexual nor pedophilic, but simply something that fitted in with what was considered the natural hierarchies/order of society. You got to contain sex with those ranked below you (those above you got to have sex with you).
Sex with girls could be filled with social, practical and spiritual ramifications and so it was commonplace for a lot of men to hire in sexual relationships with boys instead (who had little power/status to refuse) to the extent that in some professions (samurai, monks etc), it pretty much became an expected (and totally sociably acceptable) part of the job. Some samurai and monks even wrote about how sexual relations could improve the intrinsic relationship between master and apprentice (or help boys face the rigours of life in general etc).
There is one particular controversial incident in the Tale of Genji where he (a man already well into his 20s) basically has sex with an underage boy (estimated to be no older than 14). Genji was trying to chat up the boys older sister (and was using the little brother as a emissary to deliver poetic love letters to her). H
The Same-sex attracted of the Samurai All About Homosexuality, Buddhist Monks, Samurai, and The Tokugawa Middle Class
Remember the popular scene in The Last Samurai where Ken Watanabe and Tom Cruise make sweet, tender love? You don’t? Well, perhaps if the story had been more rooted in reality we could have seen that happen.
As it turns out, pre-modern Japan was exceptionally accepting, even encouraging, of male homosexuality and bisexuality. Much like that period we found out that bushido is actually modern-day made-up bullshit, this might surprise you. To be honest, it surprised me, too. I came upon this information while researching an article (still to come) about the current state of the LGBT community in Japan.